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Meshuggah - 25 Years Of Musical Deviance FLAC album

Meshuggah - 25 Years Of Musical Deviance FLAC album

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Meshuggah
A1 Cadaverous Mastication
Lyrics By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens KidmanMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens Kidman, Niclas Lundgren
B1 Sovereigns Morbidity
Lyrics By – Jens KidmanMusic By – Jens Kidman, Niclas Lundgren
B2 The Debt Of Nature
Lyrics By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens KidmanMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens Kidman, Johan Sjögren
Contradictions Collapse
C1 Paralyzing Ignorance
Lyrics By – Jens KidmanMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens Kidman
C2 Erroneous Manipulation
Lyrics By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens KidmanMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Johan Sjaegren*
C3 Abnegating Cecity
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens Kidman, Tomas Haake
D1 Internal Evidence
Lyrics By – Jens KidmanMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens Kidman
D2 Qualms Of Reality
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens Kidman
E1 We'll Never See The Day
Lyrics By – Jens KidmanMusic By – Jens Kidman, Nicke Lundgren*
E2 Greed
Lyrics By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens KidmanMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens Kidman
F1 Choirs Of Devastation
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Tomas Haake
F2 Cadaverous Mastication
Lyrics By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens KidmanMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens Kidman, Nicke Lundgren*
None
G1 Humiliative
G2 Sickening
G3 Ritual
H1 Gods Of Rapture
H2 Aztec Two-Step
Destroy Erase Improve
I1 Future Breed Machine
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal
I2 Beneath
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal
J1 Soul Burn
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Tomas Haake
J2 Transfixion
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Mårten Hagström
K1 Vanished
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal
K2 Acrid Placidity
Music By – Mårten Hagström
K3 Inside What's Within Behind
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal, Jens Kidman
L1 Terminal Illusions
Lyrics By – Jens KidmanMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal
L2 Suffer In Truth
Lyrics By, Music By – Jens Kidman
L3 Sublevels
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal
Chaosphere
M1 Concatenation
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Thordendal*
M2 New Millennium Cyanide Christ
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Thordendal*, Hagström*
N1 Corridor Of Chameleons
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Thordendal*
N2 Neurotica
Lyrics By, Music By – Hagström*
O1 The Mouth Licking What You've Bled
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Thordendal*
O2 Sane
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Kidman*, Hagström*
O3 The Exquisite Machinery Of Torture
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Thordendal*, Haake*
P1 Elastic
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Hagström*
Nothing
Q1 Stengah
Q2 Rational Gaze
Q3 Perpetual Black Second
R1 Closed Eye Visuals
R2 Glints Collide
R3 Organic Shadows
S1 Straws Pulled At Random
S2 Spasm
T1 Nebulous
T2 Obsidian
I
U1 I
Lyrics By – Mårten Hagström
Catch Thirtythree
V1 Autonomy Lost
V2 Imprint Of The Un-Saved
V3 Disenchantment
W1 The Paradoxical Spiral
W2 Re-Inanimate
W3 Entrapment
X1 Mind's Mirrors
X2 In Death - Is Life
X3 In Death - Is Death
Y1 Shed
Y2 Personae Non Gratae
Y3 Dehumanization
Y4 Sum
obZen
Z1 Combustion
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal
Z2 Electric Red
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Mårten Hagström, Tomas Haake
Z3 Bleed
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal
AA1 Lethargica
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Mårten Hagström
AA2 obZen
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Mårten Hagström
AA3 This Spiteful Snake
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Mårten Hagström, Tomas Haake
AB1 Pineal Gland Optics
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal
AB2 Pravus
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Mårten Hagström
AC1 Dancers To A Discordant System
Lyrics By – Tomas HaakeMusic By – Fredrik Thordendal
Koloss
AD1 I Am Colossus
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Thordendal*, Hagström*
AD2 The Demon's Name Is Surveillance
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Thordendal*
AD3 Do Not Look Down
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Thordendal*, Hagström*, Haake*
AE1 Behind The Sun
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Kidman*
AE2 The Hurt That Finds You First
Music By, Lyrics By – Hagström*
AE3 Marrow
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Thordendal*, Hagström*, Haake*
AF1 Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave It Motion
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Hagström*
AF2 Swarm
Lyrics By – Haake*Music By – Thordendal*, Hagström*, Haake*
AG1 Demiurge
Music By, Lyrics By – Hagström*
AG2 The Last Vigil
Music By – Hagström*
Blu-ray
BD-1 Abnegating Cecity (Music Video)
BD-2 Contradictions Collapse (Studio Video)
BD-3 None (Studio Video)
BD-4 Terminal Illusions (Music Video)
BD-5 Destroy Erase Improve (Studio Video)
BD-6 New Millenium Cyanide Christ (Music Video)
BD-7 Chaosphere (Studio Video)
BD-8 Rational Gaze (Music Video)
BD-9 Rational Gaze (Alt) (Music Video)
BD-10 I (Studio Video)
BD-11 Shed (Music Video)
BD-12 Bleed (Music Video)
BD-13 Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave It Motion (Music Video)
BD-14 Demiurge (Music Video)
BD-15 I Am Colossus (Music Video)

Companies, etc.

  • Phonographic Copyright (p) – Nuclear Blast Records
  • Copyright (c) – Nuclear Blast Records
  • Published By – Regatta Music
  • Published By – Warner Chappell Music
  • Published By – Warner/Chappell Music
  • Recorded At – Tonteknik Recording
  • Recorded At – Soundfront Studios
  • Recorded At – Dug Out Studio
  • Recorded At – Area 51
  • Recorded At – UAE-Function Studio
  • Recorded At – Fear And Loathing Studios
  • Mixed At – Tonteknik Recording
  • Mixed At – Soundfront Studios
  • Mixed At – Dug Out Studio
  • Mixed At – Fear And Loathing Studios
  • Mastered At – Cutting Room
  • Mastered At – Stockholm Mastering
  • Mastered At – The Mastering Room
  • Manufactured By – XVINYLX.COM
  • Pressed By – GZ Media – 144084M
  • Pressed By – GZ Media – 144087E
  • Pressed By – GZ Media – 144089E
  • Pressed By – GZ Media – 144090M
  • Pressed By – GZ Media – 144091M
  • Pressed By – GZ Media – 144092M
  • Pressed By – GZ Media – 144093E
  • Pressed By – GZ Media – 144094E
  • Pressed By – GZ Media – 144095M
  • Pressed By – GZ Media – 144096M
  • Designed At – Nuclear Blast Records
  • Exclusive Retailer – Nuclear Blast USA

Credits

  • Art Direction [Original] – Meshuggah (tracks: M1 to P1)
  • Artwork – Luminokaya
  • Artwork [Original], Cover [Original] – Stefan Gillblad (tracks: I1 to L3)
  • Artwork [Original], Cover [Original], Design Concept [Original] – Tomas Haake (tracks: U1 to Y4)
  • Artwork [Original], Design [Original] – Tomas Haake (tracks: M1 to P1)
  • Bass – Dick Lövgren (tracks: Z1 to AG2), Gustaf Hielm (tracks: M1 to P1), Peter Nordin (tracks: A1 to B2)
  • Bass Guitar – Peter Bordin* (tracks: I1 to L3)
  • Cover [Original], Artwork [Original], Photography By [Original], CGI Artist [Post-production, Original] – Joachim Luetke (tracks: Z1 to AC1)
  • Cover [Original], Design [Original] – Meshuggah (tracks: I1 to L3)
  • Cover, Artwork – Luminokaya (tracks: AD1 to AG2)
  • Design Concept [Cover, Original] – Tomas Haake (tracks: Z1 to AC1)
  • Design, Layout [Composition] – Rob Kimura
  • Drum Programming – Meshuggah (tracks: V1 to Y4)
  • Drums – Niclas Lundgren (tracks: A1 to B2), Tomas Haake (tracks: Z1 to AG2)
  • Drums, Voice – Tomas Haake (tracks: I1 to P1)
  • Engineer – Danne Bergstrand* (tracks: I1 to L3)
  • Engineer [Recording] – Fredrik Thordendal (tracks: AD1 to AG2)
  • Guitar – Fredrik Thordendal (tracks: Z1 to AG2), Mårten Hagström (tracks: Z1 to AG2)
  • Guitar, Bass – Fredrik* (tracks: V1 to Y4), Jens* (tracks: V1 to Y4), Mårten* (tracks: V1 to Y4)
  • Lead Vocals – Jens Kidman (tracks: I1 to P1)
  • Liner Notes [Foreword] – Danny Carey, Jello Biafra, Kirk Hammett, Robert Trujillo
  • Lyrics By – Mårten Hagström (tracks: V1 to Y4), Tomas Haake (tracks: V1 to Y4)
  • Mastered By – Björn Engelmann (tracks: V1 to AC1), Göran Finnberg (tracks: AD1 to AG2), Peter In de Betou (tracks: I1 to P1), Thomas Erberger (tracks: U1)
  • Mixed By – Danne Bergstrand* (tracks: I1 to L3, AD1 to AG2), Fredrik Thordendal (tracks: I1 to L3, U1 to AC1), Meshuggah (tracks: V1 to AC1)
  • Performer – Dick Lövgren (tracks: Q1 to U1), Fredrik Thordendal (tracks: Q1 to U1), Jens Kidman (tracks: Q1 to U1), Mårten Hagström (tracks: Q1 to U1), Tomas Haake (tracks: Q1 to U1)
  • Performer [Early '88 Line-up], Bass Guitar – Peter Nordin
  • Performer [Early '88 Line-up], Drums – Niclas Lundgren
  • Performer [Early '88 Line-up], Rhythm Guitar, Lead Guitar – Fredrik Thordendal
  • Performer [Early '88 Line-up], Vocals, Rhythm Guitar – Jens Kidman
  • Performer [Founding Members], Bass Guitar – Jörgen Lindmark
  • Performer [Founding Members], Drums – Per Sjögren
  • Performer [Founding Members], Rhythm Guitar, Lead Guitar – Fredrik Thordendal, Johan Sjögren
  • Performer [Founding Members], Vocals – Jens Kidman
  • Photography By [Band Photo] – John Norhager (tracks: M1 to P1)
  • Producer – Danne Bergstrand* (tracks: I1 to L3), Meshuggah (tracks: I1 to P1, AD1 to AG2)
  • Recorded By, Mixed By – Pelle Henricsson (tracks: A1 to B2)
  • Recorded By, Mixed By [Mix-down] – Daniel Bergstrand (tracks: M1 to P1), Fredrik Thordendal (tracks: M1 to P1)
  • Rhythm Guitar – Mårten Hagström (tracks: I1 to P1)
  • Rhythm Guitar, Guitar [Solo Guitar], Synthesizer – Fredrik Thordendal (tracks: I1 to L3)
  • Rhythm Guitar, Lead Guitar – Fredrik Thordendal (tracks: M1 to P1)
  • Rhythm Guitar, Lead Guitar, Vocals – Fredrik Thordendal (tracks: A1 to B2)
  • Video Editor [Blu-ray Encoded & Authored By] – Tommy Jones (tracks: BD-1 to BD-15)
  • Vocals – Jens Kidman (tracks: V1 to AG2)
  • Vocals [Spoken] – Tomas Haake (tracks: V1 to Y4)
  • Vocals, Rhythm Guitar – Jens Kidman (tracks: A1 to B2)
  • Written-By, Engineer, Producer – Meshuggah (tracks: U1 to Y4)

Notes

Limited to 1,000 boxsets worldwide of which 585 copies were made available in the US.

This version was distribute through Nuclear Blast Europe and does not contain the misprinted version of the album "Nothing", only the newly pressed one with the correct labels.

Box set includes:
- 7 albums and 3 EPs on 17 ultra clear, 180 gram 12-inch vinyl featuring brand new artwork
- Embossed outer case with 3D cover art
- 100-page hardcover book with lyrics and previously unreleased photos
- Blu-ray disc with music videos and never-before-seen "making of" footage
- Felt slipmat with exclusive design

Catalog number NB 3446-5 taken from jackets and booklet, 3446-5 taken from labels.
Label code and rights society taken from Blu-ray disc.

'Meshuggah' recorded and mixed at Tonteknik Recording in Umeå, Sweden.

'Destroy Erase Improve' recorded and mixed at Soundfront Studios, Uppsala, Sweden - February 1995. Mastered at Cutting Room, Stockholm. All songs published by Regatta.

'Chaosphere' recorded and mixed at the Dug-out, Uppsala, Sweden. Additional recording at Area 51 and Uae-Function Studio, Stockholm, Sweden. Mastered at Cutting Room, Stockholm, Sweden. All songs published by Regatta Music/Warner Chappell Music.

'Nothing' drums recorded at Dug Out Studio, Uppsala, Sweden - May 2002. Guitars and bass recorded at Studio Area 51. Vocals and mixing done at Fear And Loathing Studio, Stockholm, Sweden.

'I' recorded in/at Fear & Loathing, Stockholm, Sweden. Mastered at Stockholm Mastering.

'Catch Thirtythree' recorded at Fear & Loathing, Stockholm, Sweden. Mastered at Cutting Room.

'obZen' recorded and mixed at Fear And Loathing Studio, Stockholm, Sweden. Mastered at Cutting Room, Stockholm. All songs published by Warner/Chappell Music.

'Koloss' recorded at Fear and Loathing Studios, Stockholm, Sweden. Mixed at the Dugout, Uppsala, Sweden. Mastered at The Mastering Room, Gothenburg, Sweden.

Blu-ray encoded & authored at Videohammer Studios.

Tracks B2 and L2 are incorrectly titled as "The Dept Of Nature" and "Suffer The Truth" in the hardcover book.

℗ + © 2016 Nuclear Blast Records.

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  • Mastering SID Code: IFPI LZ13
  • Mould SID Code: IFPI UGK2
  • Label Code: LC 07027
  • Rights Society: GEMA

Other versions

Category Artist Title (Format) Label Category Country Year
NB 3446-5, 3446-5 Meshuggah 25 Years Of Musical Deviance ‎(Box, Comp, Ltd + 12", EP, RE, Cle + 2xLP, Album, R) Nuclear Blast, Nuclear Blast NB 3446-5, 3446-5 US 2016


Meshuggah - 25 Years Of Musical Deviance FLAC album

Musician performer: Meshuggah

Title: 25 Years Of Musical Deviance

Country: US

Date of release: 2016

Style: Thrash, Experimental, Math Rock

Genre: Rock

Size FLAC: 1271 mb

Rating: 4.4 / 5

Votes: 553

Other Formats: ASF WAV WMA AUD DTS AHX MP1

Meshuggah Thrash Experimental Math Rock 2016 US

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Larosa
Also book is missing lyrics to "sane" on Chaosphere.Awesome boxset though. Sound is great - yes, from cd masters but no different to any of their other vinyl.
Larosa
Also book is missing lyrics to "sane" on Chaosphere.Awesome boxset though. Sound is great - yes, from cd masters but no different to any of their other vinyl.
Qulcelat
Agreed. It's just the classic Meshuggah sound, cold and digital. Love it or hate it, there never will be much difference between their vinyl and CD releases.
Qulcelat
Agreed. It's just the classic Meshuggah sound, cold and digital. Love it or hate it, there never will be much difference between their vinyl and CD releases.
Wizard
i have pre order my box in NB.de ( germany ) and it came directly from Germany . So i think this is not a US release but a EU release. There were printed in Germany and then dispatched.
Wizard
i have pre order my box in NB.de ( germany ) and it came directly from Germany . So i think this is not a US release but a EU release. There were printed in Germany and then dispatched.
Manesenci
Turns out they were pressed at GZ Media in Czech Republic.
Manesenci
Turns out they were pressed at GZ Media in Czech Republic.
Zetadda
When are these records going to be avalible by them selves? Catch 33 needs a proper vinyl release.
Zetadda
When are these records going to be avalible by them selves? Catch 33 needs a proper vinyl release.
Xor
It does, but they should have done it correctly. The album has a natural split point at 23:46 that fits fine on a regular 12" 33RPM. Not this 6-minute side length bullshit they did for the original picture disc and this CD-pressed box set.
Xor
It does, but they should have done it correctly. The album has a natural split point at 23:46 that fits fine on a regular 12" 33RPM. Not this 6-minute side length bullshit they did for the original picture disc and this CD-pressed box set.
Jwalextell
The EU release is for the box sets MARKETED IN EUROPE. Which, by the way, are different from the US marketed ones as they do not include the faulty pressing of the album Nothing. So this entry stays.
Jwalextell
The EU release is for the box sets MARKETED IN EUROPE. Which, by the way, are different from the US marketed ones as they do not include the faulty pressing of the album Nothing. So this entry stays.
Micelhorav
There is no EU release of this box set. This should be removed.
Micelhorav
There is no EU release of this box set. This should be removed.
RUsich155
The country just needs changing, it's the box set that doesn't contain the misprint 'Nothing.' It's a quick fix.
RUsich155
The country just needs changing, it's the box set that doesn't contain the misprint 'Nothing.' It's a quick fix.
MisterMax
There is actually no official EU release, all the boxsets were for US market, those in EU are US-import according to NB. The official release date is 7/29/19, not 8/4/16. That's a date when NB-EU sent boxsets with replaced misprint records.So there is only one release, this EU stuff is wrong.
MisterMax
There is actually no official EU release, all the boxsets were for US market, those in EU are US-import according to NB. The official release date is 7/29/19, not 8/4/16. That's a date when NB-EU sent boxsets with replaced misprint records.So there is only one release, this EU stuff is wrong.
Goll
I'm not certain but pretty sure it was all assembled in CZ. It would also explain why the US customers got a misprinted version and others didn't. Hypothetically, the US boxes were shipped straight to their distributors from the plant and NB only realized the misprint after they arrived. They probably tried to get the repress in time but couldn't so they sent out the US boxes and waited for other customers. Again, just hypothetical but either way it doesn't make sense why NB would only give some of their customers an extra album, it's not exactly fair. Maybe they realized the misprint partway through the batch and only had enough for so many boxes?? Who knows, they don't seem to be answering questions about it anyway.
Goll
I'm not certain but pretty sure it was all assembled in CZ. It would also explain why the US customers got a misprinted version and others didn't. Hypothetically, the US boxes were shipped straight to their distributors from the plant and NB only realized the misprint after they arrived. They probably tried to get the repress in time but couldn't so they sent out the US boxes and waited for other customers. Again, just hypothetical but either way it doesn't make sense why NB would only give some of their customers an extra album, it's not exactly fair. Maybe they realized the misprint partway through the batch and only had enough for so many boxes?? Who knows, they don't seem to be answering questions about it anyway.
Macage
I thought it was pressed in the US. Thanks for clearing that up. Seems strange though that NB would press the records in Europe, send them to be assembled in the US, then ship a batch back to Europe...I guess the printed mstter is much cheaper in the States.
Macage
I thought it was pressed in the US. Thanks for clearing that up. Seems strange though that NB would press the records in Europe, send them to be assembled in the US, then ship a batch back to Europe...I guess the printed mstter is much cheaper in the States.
Ka
You're shooting at flies. My EU release, which I submitted AFTER I received my copy without the misprinted record in it, only created a stessed out Discogs user who wants to be right at all costs, no matter how wrong he is.This is how it works with NB: they're a German label, with a separate office in the US. A company,if you will, but it's not a label. The label is EU based. From time to time, they'll have a release printed in the US specifically for the US shop. Sometimes they'll make it availableto EU customers through the EU shop, and call it an import (which is correct in that case), sometimes they won't. But if I go through the US shop and see a US-only release that I like, I can buy it anyway. The box in question didn't even present that problem, as a number of copies was already meant to go to Europe anyway. But if I wanted to buy the box set from Europe through Nuclear Blast USA no one would have stopped me.Likewise, a person from Asia can buy from NB USA or NB Europe with equal ease. The fact stays that a batch was meant to be distributed from the US and one for Europe. The US batch shipped to customers with the mispressed record, the European batch did not, thus creating a HUGE difference in the final product received by those who ordered from Europe and those who ordered from the US, hence the separate entry.That should be the end of the argument, since you so like to repeat that you understand the point, but the impression that comes across is that you want to have it your way based on unreliable and incomplete sources which the guidelines specifically ask Discogs users to disregard.Then by all means have it your way, I'm tired of explaining. In the end, the second entry can be removed if you so wish; then you can go on and create a separate entry for the mispressed Nothing, "to keep it simple". When all the customers who bought the US box set will flip their copies of the mispressed record, then it will really be the same box set for everyone.
Ka
You're shooting at flies. My EU release, which I submitted AFTER I received my copy without the misprinted record in it, only created a stessed out Discogs user who wants to be right at all costs, no matter how wrong he is.This is how it works with NB: they're a German label, with a separate office in the US. A company,if you will, but it's not a label. The label is EU based. From time to time, they'll have a release printed in the US specifically for the US shop. Sometimes they'll make it availableto EU customers through the EU shop, and call it an import (which is correct in that case), sometimes they won't. But if I go through the US shop and see a US-only release that I like, I can buy it anyway. The box in question didn't even present that problem, as a number of copies was already meant to go to Europe anyway. But if I wanted to buy the box set from Europe through Nuclear Blast USA no one would have stopped me.Likewise, a person from Asia can buy from NB USA or NB Europe with equal ease. The fact stays that a batch was meant to be distributed from the US and one for Europe. The US batch shipped to customers with the mispressed record, the European batch did not, thus creating a HUGE difference in the final product received by those who ordered from Europe and those who ordered from the US, hence the separate entry.That should be the end of the argument, since you so like to repeat that you understand the point, but the impression that comes across is that you want to have it your way based on unreliable and incomplete sources which the guidelines specifically ask Discogs users to disregard.Then by all means have it your way, I'm tired of explaining. In the end, the second entry can be removed if you so wish; then you can go on and create a separate entry for the mispressed Nothing, "to keep it simple". When all the customers who bought the US box set will flip their copies of the mispressed record, then it will really be the same box set for everyone.
Miromice
I fully understand yours and mastodon_t's point, really (I'm not so dumb but nothing is black and white mate :) but I can't accept two releases. Saying it for the last time, there are no one misprinted version and other fine printed. There is only one version. The whole pack of 1000pcs had misprinted label no matter final destination of any part of the whole branch. Just because somewhere someone send it earlier does not create a new release.I think we can't go any further like this with any progress so I'm off with this discussion.
Miromice
I fully understand yours and mastodon_t's point, really (I'm not so dumb but nothing is black and white mate :) but I can't accept two releases. Saying it for the last time, there are no one misprinted version and other fine printed. There is only one version. The whole pack of 1000pcs had misprinted label no matter final destination of any part of the whole branch. Just because somewhere someone send it earlier does not create a new release.I think we can't go any further like this with any progress so I'm off with this discussion.
Beabandis
JiriSmahel You're wrong. One has a misprinted version of 'Nothing' and the other doesn't. It's that simple. Yes, they are sending replacements but it's still a different release (RSG §1.1.3, RSG §1.1.4) and shouldn't be hard to understand. If you don't, I honestly am not sure how to word it so you do. Gut-Punch_Records You make great points but one is wrong. GZ Media (who made this box set) operates out of the Czech Republic so it was actually made in Europe, not the US. Other than that you are correct, it should be separate releases. JiriSmahel & Gut-Punch_Records I agree with mastodon_t on the country. Reason being, the press release mentions 585 copies for the US that were distributed separately from the rest. Otherwise all or none of the box sets would have a misprinted album. Unfortunately Discogs doesn't have a "world outside US" option for country but "Europe" is the next largest market. However, I don't see a point in adding "UK" to it because it's still part of "Europe." I'm aware of Brexit and everything, but "Europe" isn't the same as "EU." "EU" = "European Union" and "Europe" = the continent, but Discogs doesn't have an "EU" option for country so "Europe" should suffice. Also, the date shouldn't be concrete since the boxes were delayed in shipping. At best it should be Aug 2016.
Beabandis
JiriSmahel You're wrong. One has a misprinted version of 'Nothing' and the other doesn't. It's that simple. Yes, they are sending replacements but it's still a different release (RSG §1.1.3, RSG §1.1.4) and shouldn't be hard to understand. If you don't, I honestly am not sure how to word it so you do. Gut-Punch_Records You make great points but one is wrong. GZ Media (who made this box set) operates out of the Czech Republic so it was actually made in Europe, not the US. Other than that you are correct, it should be separate releases. JiriSmahel & Gut-Punch_Records I agree with mastodon_t on the country. Reason being, the press release mentions 585 copies for the US that were distributed separately from the rest. Otherwise all or none of the box sets would have a misprinted album. Unfortunately Discogs doesn't have a "world outside US" option for country but "Europe" is the next largest market. However, I don't see a point in adding "UK" to it because it's still part of "Europe." I'm aware of Brexit and everything, but "Europe" isn't the same as "EU." "EU" = "European Union" and "Europe" = the continent, but Discogs doesn't have an "EU" option for country so "Europe" should suffice. Also, the date shouldn't be concrete since the boxes were delayed in shipping. At best it should be Aug 2016.
Karon
According to the guidelines, you're wrong.This is from NB site, an official news:2016-06-02 - The ninth wonder of the unnatural world, extreme tech-metal messiah's MESHUGGAH are releasing the ultimate collectors piece, 25 Years Of Musical Deviance box set, which will be released on July 29. 2016 via Nuclear Blast. The set is limited to 1,000 units worldwide - exclusively via the Nuclear Blast Webshop."Blabbermouth:"Swedish experimental extreme metallers MESHUGGAH will release the ultimate collectors' piece, the "25 Years Of Musical Deviance" box set, on July 29 via Nuclear Blast. The set is limited to 1,000 units worldwide; only 585 will be available in the U.S. exclusively via the Nuclear Blast webshop."And this information is practically spread around the net. There'll be 1k worldwide, only 585 in US.Now, where is an info about EU, UK, South America maybe, Japan or Asia? There are no units for specific market, 1k worldwide out of it 585 in US.Your EU release created an impatient manager somewhere who decided to ship wrong goods.
Karon
According to the guidelines, you're wrong.This is from NB site, an official news:2016-06-02 - The ninth wonder of the unnatural world, extreme tech-metal messiah's MESHUGGAH are releasing the ultimate collectors piece, 25 Years Of Musical Deviance box set, which will be released on July 29. 2016 via Nuclear Blast. The set is limited to 1,000 units worldwide - exclusively via the Nuclear Blast Webshop."Blabbermouth:"Swedish experimental extreme metallers MESHUGGAH will release the ultimate collectors' piece, the "25 Years Of Musical Deviance" box set, on July 29 via Nuclear Blast. The set is limited to 1,000 units worldwide; only 585 will be available in the U.S. exclusively via the Nuclear Blast webshop."And this information is practically spread around the net. There'll be 1k worldwide, only 585 in US.Now, where is an info about EU, UK, South America maybe, Japan or Asia? There are no units for specific market, 1k worldwide out of it 585 in US.Your EU release created an impatient manager somewhere who decided to ship wrong goods.
Gri
According to the guidelines, my point of view is the correct one. So it's a good thing that you are not sorry for it.
Gri
According to the guidelines, my point of view is the correct one. So it's a good thing that you are not sorry for it.
Ffel
No problem, you don't have to be sorry just because you don't agree with me. I'm not sorry about your incorrect point of view. It's not a big deal anyway, we only share opinions. NB is a great label with lot of hard work behind. I'm glad they are from Germany.
Ffel
No problem, you don't have to be sorry just because you don't agree with me. I'm not sorry about your incorrect point of view. It's not a big deal anyway, we only share opinions. NB is a great label with lot of hard work behind. I'm glad they are from Germany.
Zainn
And finally, the one GARGANTUAN difference between your copy and mine is that yours contains a misprinted album which mine doesn't. I think it's a pretty huge difference. Enough to grant a separate entry.If you don't think so, then go ahead and merge all the releases who have a separate entry just because they came with a slipmat, or a print, or a photo just for being preorders. There's only about halh a million on Discogs, should take you only a few years...
Zainn
And finally, the one GARGANTUAN difference between your copy and mine is that yours contains a misprinted album which mine doesn't. I think it's a pretty huge difference. Enough to grant a separate entry.If you don't think so, then go ahead and merge all the releases who have a separate entry just because they came with a slipmat, or a print, or a photo just for being preorders. There's only about halh a million on Discogs, should take you only a few years...
Murn
And yes, if the records are US releases made available for Europe for an inflated price then yes it's an import, but when the record is pressed in the US and immediately planned to be marketed in Europe as well it's not an import. It's a record being pressed in a country and being sold in another, as per NB plans. NOT an import. So, once again, they simply misuse the word.
Murn
And yes, if the records are US releases made available for Europe for an inflated price then yes it's an import, but when the record is pressed in the US and immediately planned to be marketed in Europe as well it's not an import. It's a record being pressed in a country and being sold in another, as per NB plans. NOT an import. So, once again, they simply misuse the word.
Visonima
Yeah, too bad that NB is a European label. The US branch was just opened a few years ago to help with overseas orders. Your whole argument is invalid, I'm sorry.
Visonima
Yeah, too bad that NB is a European label. The US branch was just opened a few years ago to help with overseas orders. Your whole argument is invalid, I'm sorry.
Mavivasa
My truth is based on one simple fact. There is only one release. There is absolutely no difference between US and EU after they'll send the correct record. So who's gonna tell me which one I own?Sure "7.1.2. The country is NOT where the release was manufactured." but you forgot to continue, this is just a part of it " ... A US label can release licensed recordings in Germany & Netherlands (perhaps manufactured in Austria)".There is no single word about licensing. The EU batch is not licensed. It's still the same release.I think they didn't misuse the word import. There is lots of import records, for instance those Slayer records on clear vinyl. All under NB, destined for US but sold in EU too. They are US releases but you can buy them in EU because NB operates on both sides of pond.
Mavivasa
My truth is based on one simple fact. There is only one release. There is absolutely no difference between US and EU after they'll send the correct record. So who's gonna tell me which one I own?Sure "7.1.2. The country is NOT where the release was manufactured." but you forgot to continue, this is just a part of it " ... A US label can release licensed recordings in Germany & Netherlands (perhaps manufactured in Austria)".There is no single word about licensing. The EU batch is not licensed. It's still the same release.I think they didn't misuse the word import. There is lots of import records, for instance those Slayer records on clear vinyl. All under NB, destined for US but sold in EU too. They are US releases but you can buy them in EU because NB operates on both sides of pond.
Vertokini
The problem with your "truth" is that it's solely based on Nuclear Blast's misuse of the word "Import", otherwise you would make perfect sense.For the record, an import is a release that was meant for a specific market, say the Japanese one, and somehow you find it in Europe or in the US. THAT is an import.This box was manufactured in the US in 1000 copies, split in two batches, one of which was sent to Europe and was NEVER meant for any other market. So, like I said, misuse of the word IMPORT by NB, not something I would use as a guideline for my submissions.Furthermore, the problem with the Nothing album even pushed the release date for the EU/UK copies of a whole week, made it so that the US-marketed copies have now the affected album twice, which the EU marketed copies do not.But the most important thing is that very clear, very specific line in the guidelines, which I'm going to quote again for the cheap seats: "7.1.2. The country is NOT where the release was manufactured."And also this other one from 7.1.1: "...the country should always be the place the release was sold and distributed in."I think all of the above is truer than your "truth".
Vertokini
The problem with your "truth" is that it's solely based on Nuclear Blast's misuse of the word "Import", otherwise you would make perfect sense.For the record, an import is a release that was meant for a specific market, say the Japanese one, and somehow you find it in Europe or in the US. THAT is an import.This box was manufactured in the US in 1000 copies, split in two batches, one of which was sent to Europe and was NEVER meant for any other market. So, like I said, misuse of the word IMPORT by NB, not something I would use as a guideline for my submissions.Furthermore, the problem with the Nothing album even pushed the release date for the EU/UK copies of a whole week, made it so that the US-marketed copies have now the affected album twice, which the EU marketed copies do not.But the most important thing is that very clear, very specific line in the guidelines, which I'm going to quote again for the cheap seats: "7.1.2. The country is NOT where the release was manufactured."And also this other one from 7.1.1: "...the country should always be the place the release was sold and distributed in."I think all of the above is truer than your "truth".
Kupidon
I just want to keep it simple, I think that a note about some misprinted labels and replacing them would be enough. And still, the root cause is there is only one release sold around the world.But I understand your point as well so I'm not going to try to persuade you about my truth.
Kupidon
I just want to keep it simple, I think that a note about some misprinted labels and replacing them would be enough. And still, the root cause is there is only one release sold around the world.But I understand your point as well so I'm not going to try to persuade you about my truth.
Golkree
No, I understand your point. The only problem is that the guidelines contradict themselves and it's hard to make sense of them sometimes,I would still keep the separate entry though, because of the absence of the misprinted Nothing, and would change the Country to UK and Europe, since the original 415 copies that were shipped from the US were actually meant for UK and Europe, not only Europe.
Golkree
No, I understand your point. The only problem is that the guidelines contradict themselves and it's hard to make sense of them sometimes,I would still keep the separate entry though, because of the absence of the misprinted Nothing, and would change the Country to UK and Europe, since the original 415 copies that were shipped from the US were actually meant for UK and Europe, not only Europe.
Feri
Well, then we have to create an UK release because NB-UK announced and sold this boxset too. NB-EU says "MESHUGGAH - 25 years ULTRA-CLEAR VINYL US-IMPORT". So for me, it is a US release imported to Europe.I've read the guidelines and you are wrong. Please read the last sentence about imported releases in paragraph 7.1.1. I don't want to create a flame war, this is just my opinion.
Feri
Well, then we have to create an UK release because NB-UK announced and sold this boxset too. NB-EU says "MESHUGGAH - 25 years ULTRA-CLEAR VINYL US-IMPORT". So for me, it is a US release imported to Europe.I've read the guidelines and you are wrong. Please read the last sentence about imported releases in paragraph 7.1.1. I don't want to create a flame war, this is just my opinion.
Chankane
"all the boxsets were for US market"Incorrect. Little more than half of the box sets were meant for the US market. The rest were meant for Europe. According to NB. ALSO, the "country" entry on Discogs stands for the country where the record was marketed, not pressed. Read the guidelines and my comment above for further information.
Chankane
"all the boxsets were for US market"Incorrect. Little more than half of the box sets were meant for the US market. The rest were meant for Europe. According to NB. ALSO, the "country" entry on Discogs stands for the country where the record was marketed, not pressed. Read the guidelines and my comment above for further information.